Back to Square One? Life after an LLM

Anjan Dev

Dec 23, 2009

"I had a blast. I met new people, learnt new things and worked in the US," says Zia Mody of her LLM from Harvard. "Does it help? No. Not necessarily."

It's open season for graduate applications. The classmate to your left probably has in their pocket, a pre-placement offer from that big firm in Delhi or Mumbai. The one on the right is probably going to get recruited through the recruitment drive that is to happen in the college later. You may be busy filling applications forms to one of those Ivy League law schools to do your LLM.

Why one wants to do an LLM is a matter of personal choice. Maybe you want to go abroad, maybe you want to study a specific aspect of law and specialize. Come 2011, the chances that you are going to be looking for a job, in India, are quite high.

Broadly, corporate law firms, litigation, non-profit, and academics are the sectors where you might be looking for employment. Bar & Bench takes a look at how the LLM helps in the rat race.

"An LLM does not necessarily impart an invaluable skill. However, I would give a few points for a better rounded personality. An LLM abroad used to be a platform for students to get jobs abroad. However, it is not a viable option today," feels Zia Mody, Managing Partner, AZB & Partners.

Post-Qualification-Experience (PQE) is the mantra for most law firms. Depending upon circumstances, a graduate with PQE stands a better chance of getting hired over an LLM graduate with no PQE. The post-graduate competes in the same job market as the LLB graduate. The LLM does not appear to add special value to one's resume or ensure that they stay ahead in the race.

Akshay Chudasama, Partner at J. Sagar Associates' Mumbai office, gives more points for PQE. "While an LLM is valuable, undoubtedly, it is not a clincher. The deciding factor is the PQE."  Khaitan & Co Partner, Rabindra Jhunjhunwala, is of the same opinion. "A few of our associates have gone abroad after they joined us. They come back with a different perspective, exposure, a wider network and a lot of learning," he says.

Ajay Raghavan, Partner at Trilegal's Bangalore office, feels that from a recruitment perspective, an LLM does not have much to offer. "While from a learning perspective it is great, and definitely worth it, it offers no credit in terms of looking for a job. He would still join as a fresher, at the same level as someone with an LLB," he says.

Pavitra Anand, a graduate of the prestigious London School of Economics, now an associate with Vishwanathan & Co., begs to differ. "My masters program has definitely helped me with my job. A large percentage of our clients are European and it helps me understand their needs, in addition to giving me the means to research a topic," she says.

The focus of LLM programs is academic, an edge that is being blunted by the lack of a practical approach. Most LLM programs seem to focus on academic pursuits encouraging a subsequent doctorate, or a career in academics. The lacuna in such a program is evident, considering that a large number of non-academically inclined students are spending an entire year honing their knowledge, only to come back and compete with lesser qualified juniors or peers.

Dr. Shashikala Gurupur, the Dean of Symbiosis Law College, acknowledges this. Since taking over the deanship, she has made efforts to moot changes in the system. "We are in the process of making this a more industry-oriented, industry friendly course." She feels that when a program offers a more 'hands-on' approach to teaching, the value and the demand for the graduates increases exponentially.

"While LLM candidates have a saleability issue for jobs in law firms or corporate houses, they are ideally placed to take up a teaching job. As of now, the demand is low, as the salaries are not up to the mark. But that is only a matter of time," she feels. "There is a dearth of good faculty. They are an extinct species," she rues. She is quick to point out that a majority of LLM candidates in India take up postgraduate studies when they do not manage to get a job. Especially during the recession in 2008-09, when the chances of employment were low, a record number of students chose to pursue a postgraduate degree.  

"An LLM program is meant to hone research skills, improve pedagogic thinking and trains one to teach," says Professor Venkata Rao, Vice Chancellor of the National Law School of India University. He however disagrees that an LLM graduate has no edge in the rough and tumble world of law firms and litigation. "If that is so, how is that all our Rhodes scholars are being lapped up by law firms abroad?" he questionsporn german porno german porno german porno german porno porno german porno german porno ulucami german porno.

Parikshet Sirohi, a Delhi-based litigator, feels that the program does not have to offer any practical application. At least in litigation. "It might look good on your visiting card or your letterhead, but as a litigator, it does not help or assist one in becoming a good lawyer," he says. "It is about court-craft, presentation skills, and that cannot be learned in a classroom. I know of some LLM graduates who studied corporate and commercial laws, but are now practicing in Administrative tribunals and a graduate in Human Rights law who is working in a law firm. For a litigator, the Civil Procedure, Criminal Procedure, Penal Code and the Transfer of Property Act are bread and butter. I doubt if an LLM will help you with that."

"Your typical LLM candidate will be one of these three. Either he or she wants to eventually end up in the civil services, or in hard-core academics, or wants to go abroad live in another country for a year and come back," says Parikshet, a statement that many outgoing and incoming students would undoubtedly find true.

 

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Comments(16)
  • 1. "LLM offers a wide network around the globe. You have expert lawyers, judges, academicians, etc. in different countries as your friends. That is of great value, if you have not realized that yet. Exposure is key in life and LLM abroad offers a great deal of international exposure. I have found them to be more confident and mature in their dealings with clients and colleagues. ". JH, London
  • 2. "why everyone is talking about LLM from abroad. Is Doing LLM from India is not worth enough?". Sharad, Bangalore
  • 3. "Of course Indian LLMs are terrible! I think even Indian law universities acknowledge that their post-graduate programmes need work, which is one of the reasons the whole one-year LLM proposal is being mulled by the HRD ministry. Also, speaking from experience, I know that Indian faculty, even in the 'premier' National law unis, are by-and-large nowhere close to their US, UK and european counterparts. if JGLS' experiment works, of course, then I may be forced to revise my opinion, but for now, great faculty are the exception, rather than the rule.". US LLM Graduate, Delhi
  • 4. "I did an intercollegiate LLM from the University of London and found it to be a wonderful experience. It definitely expanded my academic horizons. In many countries a postgrad qualification does give you an edge, especially in research-oriented fields. As for the social side, I got to make friends with people from all corners of the globe and I got to learn a bit about other cultures and societies. My humble suggestion would be to go for it! ". Ray, India
  • 5. "LLM from foreign university means value edition to your skill sets, but when you go abroad by spending lakhs you have to be very sure about the things that you wish to acquire from such a course. People at times select subjects which are not well developed in the practical realm or may have a very limited scope in the job market; students with no planning about their carrier may find themselves in a lurch. The potential to exposure to new skills and knowledge is immense in a foreign LLM, and these skills are very important in the emerging markets like India. After 90’s Indian legal sector witnessed a tremendous change and the process is on going. Legal profession is a tough one and foreign LLM is not an easy task, so the prospective students should do a thorough analysis about their goals. It’s always better to do an LLM after few years of practice because you will have a better assessment about your skills and right notion about the market which shall give you a clear idea about the specific gains in terms of knowledge and carrier by doing an LLM. ". Manoj Nair, Delhi
  • 6. "I think one also needs to make a distinction between LLM from the US and UK when evaluating the benefits of the LLM programs. You can work in UK without a UK law degree, but need a US law degree to practice in the US. ". Jason, New York
  • 7. "While a foreign LLM fails to score over PQE when applying to a law firm, it helps in development of personality of the student. You interact with students from across jurisdictions (civil and common law) which enhances rather widens your thought process. I do not consider it a waste.". Vikas Chopra, Hyd
  • 8. "The point in this article is not just true, it is truism. I often compare legal profession with medical and say in jest that doctors and lawyers take about the same time to bloom and follow same career trajectories. Only lawyers finish their education in 5 or 6 years and doctors need about 10.I think the missing link between these is that MBBS and a subsequent MS or MD - all these degrees are application oriented while LL.B. and LL.M. are not. And while practicing law in my personal opinion, it would need another 3-4 years after passing out of law school for a law grad to really call himself a lawyer. That's about 5 or 6 years of education and a 3-4 years of practical training.These are those kind of professions. Both of them are special. Both of them are not for everyone. But I am inclined to agree with the point that when it comes to good faculty and specialist professors Indian law schools are at a loss. ". Khagesh Gautam, Chandigarh
  • 9. "Now a days specialization of subjects vizIntellectual property rights and Cyber laws courses have been started which is very useful". S.Sankarasubramanian, Chennai
  • 10. "i want to getv admission on LLM in company law". Ahmad Shair, Pakistan
  • 11. "being a judicial officer, which mode of specialization, i should pursue in LL.M.". Dadhich Narayan Bhardwaj, India
  • 12. "This is probably the silliest piece of writing I've come across in a long time.Please don't compare compare apples and oranges. Lets take an example -Z and Y are classmates. X goes for an LLM. Y starts working. When X returns to india and looks for a job, he isn't competing directly with Y who is now an experienced attorney but with his juniors for an entry level position. So i don't really buy the QPE argument. Having said that, do you reasonably believe that an someone with an LLM has no advantage over a fresh LL.B. graduate for an entry level position?". M, US
  • 13. "someone in this forum mentioned a comparision between a foreign LLM and an Indian LLM ... and rated a foreign degree over the Indian Degree... well then that is true for an LLB as well ... A law graguate from Harvard carrys more value than a LL.B from a NLS in India ?? ... I think it is not even just draw a comparision. LL.M's in Indian National Law schools also qualify the same CLAT and come in... it is the Indian Law school who are responsible for the final product( LL.B or LL.M). ". Sushil, Delhi
  • 14. "i am student of llm and want to know what is the opportunity after llm.". Sachin, Shahjahanpur(u.p)india
  • 15. "i am law post graduate i want to make my carrier in law in usa.so is there any opportunity? please let me know what is the opportunity.". Sahtosh Wankhede, Aurangabad
  • 16. "Hum banna hain...humein to Harvard aaram se le lega. [edited]". V.S. Rana, Jodhpur
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